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Friday, 02 May 2008

It's official - Tsvangirai won

The poll result is finally announced  - but will it be accepted?

Zimbabwe's election officials today finally did what the world has been asking them to do for weeks - they announced the official result of the presidential election. They reported that Morgan Tsvangirai, leader of the opposition MDC, beat President Mugabe with 47.9 per cent of the vote.

This result, if accepted, means a re-run of the poll, in order to produce a winner with over 50 per cent support. The MDC have consistently claimed that Tsvangirai won the original poll by more than 50 per cent, and have said they would accept no other result.

Tsvangirai himself has been quoted as saying he would agree to a re-run if the second election were overseen by the United Nations - something that Mugabe and his Zanu-PF party would dismiss out of hand.

Observers on the ground believe that, with the on-going Zanu-PF-inspired campaign of violence and murder, with Tsvangirai himself in virtual exile, and with many leading MDC activists in hiding, no new and fair election is possible.

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…the prediction of violence in order to influence the run-off has proved accurate. Many are running in fear, even to neighboring countries… and may not be allowed to return when the next poll is conducted.

And, I believe you are accurate, as well. South Africa and the SADC will do nothing to require Mister Mugabe to reign in his henchmen, so the violence will continue. Not only will RSA and SADC do nothing, they will continue to manipulate roadblocks to hold the UN at bay to avoid admitting to their own ineptness… but the UN is a neutered organisation, anyway… they’ve got better things to do… like fill their pockets from the coffers. Meanwhile, the military and police will do no more than accuse the victims of being the criminals, in order to frustrate the carriage of justice, protect the guilty, and insure the dastardly deeds can continue with impunity until the task is complete.

As always, “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. It’s the late ’70’s all over again… just different people holding the nation hostage… and how ironic to see who sits in the place of rule this time dispensing injustice and believing their own lies.

Mugabe will win the run-off poll, but the “all seeing eye” knows all truth. Life isn’t as long as the thugs think it is, and shortly, they will face the judgment for their deeds. Trust me, when you become 74, you see how quickly it all passed. Like smoke that rises, and then is gone. Like the last wisp of smoke taken upon a breeze, soon I will be here no more. But, I will be there, and I will remind the great judge of their deeds, and He will horribly avenge all the blood they have spilt when their time arrives, and they all will scream in awful harmony… in agony forever after because they defiled the life that He gave them from something pure to gleefully bathing in the blood and torn flesh of their own countrymen for the sake of a lie.

Having beaten,terrorised and cowered the country wide opposition into submission prior to the run off, Mugabe has not been named beelzebob for nothing!

I would agree with you on most things there Lula, however I believe comparing Zimbabwe now with Rhodesia of the late 70s is inaccurate. It is almost like comparing a border dispute with a war.

Mugabe, Unlike Smith, does not have the grace, common sense, or courage to admit defeat ..... and would rather become the king of a barren wasteland than let anyone else take his illegally obtained and maintained position. Smith may not have been running the country with a fair hand for all, but it seems that people were safer then from their own country's leader (In fact most of the killing of civilians that was carried out during the bush war was done by the forces of one Robert Gabriel Mugabe, ZANLA), and thats not even touching on the economy and other relative trivialities.

It is high time the UN stopped talking about doing something and actually got off their backsides and did it ..... after all, were they not formed from the League of Nations to ensure that another world war 2 holocaust could never again occur? And that is what we are facing here, maybe not on the same sheer scale, but certainly the same thing.

Is Michale for real? I guess he is one of those old die-hard unrepented Rhodesians. just as Smith was. Beause to say the Smith did not kill people in Rhodesia is an insult to all black Zimbabweans. What about the thousands Smith killed in Nyadzonya and Chomoio in Mozambique. What about the burnt villages his selous scout (led by David Coltart) torched? Or is it that the killing of black people by whites is considered okay. I am saddened by black Zimbabweans to seem to suffer from amnesia, where their history of the country seems to start from 1980 conveniently ignoring the past. Unless we are willing to look at our history (the whole history and not selectively) we are bound to repeat the same mistakes. What is it with us African people who seem ready to forgive and forget the attrocities committed on us by whites. Is the blood of an african so cheap. Where is your pride? Why is it that we Africans don't beleive in ourselves, that we are capable of sorting our own problems. If an initiave to solve an african problem is authored by Africans it is rubbished and yet anything prescribed by the West is blindly accepted. I can understand the Michaels of this world's position, they want to perpetuate the myth the West has so carefully choregraghed i.e. Africans can not survive without the West's leadership and guidance. This is done so that the West can continue to have access to Africa's vast natural resources at the expense of Africans. When are going to wake up and see the real issues at stake here. Since when has the West been interested in the well being of an African. Look at the history.

B.Rumbidzo: "Since when has [an African leader] been interested in the well being of an African. Look at the history."

I agree with DC and to emphasize his comment, is the slaughter of 20000 Ndebele an example of an African leader looking after the well being of his people ?

Ok, I'm going to take that post one point at a time, as you seem to be missing certain points that I have been putting across, the comment about being an unrepentant Rhodesian aside (not quite true, I'd personally rather people got along as equals, something you obviously do not subscribe to)

"Beause to say the Smith did not kill people in Rhodesia is an insult to all black Zimbabweans. What about the thousands Smith killed in Nyadzonya and Chomoio in Mozambique. What about the burnt villages his selous scout (led by David Coltart) torched? Or is it that the killing of black people by whites is considered okay."

I think you will find that I did not once say that atrocities were only committed from one side ..... merely that MOST of the civilian based atrocities were committed by ZANLA. And you also have to remember that ZANLA forces were the ones who went around the country in the first election saying 'Vote Mugabe .... Or Else'.

"I am saddened by black Zimbabweans to seem to suffer from amnesia, where their history of the country seems to start from 1980 conveniently ignoring the past. Unless we are willing to look at our history (the whole history and not selectively) we are bound to repeat the same mistakes."

That, unfortunately, is not a rare thing, it happens in a lot of countries around the world.

"What is it with us African people who seem ready to forgive and forget the attrocities committed on us by whites. Is the blood of an african so cheap. Where is your pride? Why is it that we Africans don't beleive in ourselves, that we are capable of sorting our own problems. If an initiave to solve an african problem is authored by Africans it is rubbished and yet anything prescribed by the West is blindly accepted."

Again I didn't say anything about a solution by the west being any better or worse than an African solution, and as the UN is an INTERNATIONAL organisation it has a responsibility to every nation in its membership.

"I can understand the Michaels of this world's position, they want to perpetuate the myth the West has so carefully choregraghed i.e. Africans can not survive without the West's leadership and guidance. This is done so that the West can continue to have access to Africa's vast natural resources at the expense of Africans."

Aha, so you believe yourself to be a mind reader ..... don't give up the day job because you couldn't be further away from the truth of the matter. There is a small country between Zambia and South Africa that I love, and I have had to watch for 28 years while some power crazed idiot has systematically ripped the heart out. I don't care what the name of the country is at any given time .... Rhodesia, Zimbabwe, it doesn't matter, and I don't care what the colour of the #1 bloke is ..... as lng as the guy in the top seat is working FOR the country, which Mugabe has never had any intention of doing.

"When are going to wake up and see the real issues at stake here. Since when has the West been interested in the well being of an African. Look at the history."

You're right, to a certain extent ..... and so is DC, but thats not what this is about ..... this is about a tinpot dictator who has destroyed a beautiful land to fill the pockets of his cronies, and who will continue to do so as long as there are people like you who are willing to blame everything on an external power.

But saying that, if you are going to claim that the West is the big evil, just look at the countries that actually finalised the process that brought Mugabe to power ..... Not Russia and China with their arms supplies and training, but Britain and the USA working through Lords Soames and Carrington with their Lancaster House Agreement ..... as you say, look at the whole history, not just selective parts, and I would appreciate it if, when commenting on a post, you read the post as it is, and not with little parts added by yourself.

B. Rumbidzo: I wouldn't usually push a point after posting something like the last one, but I would sincerely like to hear a response from you concerning the posts since yours, as well as further counterpoints from yourself.

An open dialogue like this one may not end up dictating the way Zimbabwe is going to run in the end, but it will certainly be a starting point to the contributors understanding through discussion and debate what should be done to benefit everyone that has a personal stake in our country.

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