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Bebbelke

You went hungry because you couldn't find a beast, 'something' with a face and a pulsing heart (just like you) to murder and devore? Sorry for asking,(never been in your country, not knowing much about it except that the situation is not brilliant), but don't you have vegetables, cereals, plants, fruits? Are you living in a desert? I'm happy to tell you I didn't eat animals for 47 years now, and I never go hungry because I'm a vegetarian. Why do you need helpless screams, blood and killings to feel satisfied? Millions of people all over the world live on a vegetarian diet and are in good health.

Zizi

Can't say I'm at all impressed by such cries of hunger. There are millions of children going to bed with aching bellies, all around the world, because we still waste so much of our precious resources (land, water, fuel, grain) feeding and killing cows, goats, sheep, chickens instead of putting all those resources toward feeding people. The animal industry contributes more to land degradation, pollution and to global climate change than any other single source on this planet. When will the ignorant, the uncaring, the unaware open their eyes??? Disaster is already here and you are still looking for a poor beast to devour!!! The likes of you and your kind will bury us all!

StatGuy

In Zimbabwe, vegetarians are going hungry along with everyone else, except Mugabe and his cronies. So much for "good health".

Vasu Murti

In his 1975 book, Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes:

"Killing an animal is in itself a troubling act. It has been said that if we had to kill our own meat we would all be vegetarians. There may be exceptions to that general rule, but it is true that most people prefer not to inquire into the killing of the animals they eat.

"Very few people ever visit a slaughterhouse; and films of slaughterhouse operations are rarely shown on television...Yet those who, by their purchases, require animals to be killed have no right to be shielded from this or any other aspect of the production of the meat they buy.

"If it is distasteful for humans to think about, what can it be like for the animals to experience it?"

Peter Singer concludes in Animal Liberation that "by ceasing to rear and kill animals for food, we can make extra food available for humans that, properly distributed, it would eliminate starvation and malnutrition from this planet. Animal Liberation is Human Liberation, too."

The number of animals killed for food in the United States is 70 times larger than the number of animals killed in laboratories, 30 times larger than the number of animals killed by hunters and trappers, and 500 times larger than the number of animals killed in animal pounds.

"If anyone wants to save the planet," says Paul McCartney in a PETA interview, "all they have to do is just stop eating meat. That's the single most important thing you could do. It's staggering when you think about it. Vegetarianism takes care of so many things in one shot: ecology, famine, cruelty. Let's do it! Linda was right. Going veggie is the single best idea for the new century."

Tumelo

Although I sympathise with the comments of the vegetarians, I think they have completely missed the point of the story which is that the Zimbabwean economy has completely collapsed. And as statguy said, even the vegetarians will be affected. People are suffering. Clearly all those who have chosen to elevate the discussion to a debate on vegetarianism from their cosy armchairs and bowls of carrot soup have not had the courtesy of visiting the Zimbabweans to see what life on the ground means for them.

Uncle B

Come on vegeterians and animal rights activists! This story is not necessarily about meat and vegetables alone. Its all about the collapsed Zim eceonomy where even the most unsophisticated village person does not want to trade in the fragile Zim dollar. Its all about the severe shortage of everything that is basic to the people's da to ady needs.

bebbelke

We didn't miss the point, friend TUMELO. Although the Western media don't report much about Zimbabwe: I know, I am aware that your country is in a rotten situation thanks to Mugabe - and I feel sorry about it :(
But we feel that Moses Moyo illustrated the situation by a very bad and disgusting example, and it is a fact that lots of people measure their degree of poverty/misery/happiness by the amount of meat they can get to eat. The comments of 'zizi' are very up to the point, because the appetite of the human carnivores is another and universal aspect of the destruction of our Earth. Besides, fighting for democracy in your country shouldn’t stop you from reflecting on other, ethical issues : taking the lives of innocent, defenceless creatures.

ExAfrica

For goodness sake - give the man a steak!

Good luck this weekend, my friend, I'll be cheering from the sidelines.

charlie

With few exceptions, every African nation is suffering from brutality, starvation, HIV,AIDS, and diseases that would disappear if only potable water were available.

This man's story is not about MEAT! It is about the desperate conditions he and his family endure in Zimbabwe. Multiply his story by hundreds of millions and it is a shameful catastrophe that the western nations do nothing about!

Charlie
Staten Island, New York

Keya

This is clearly not a meat eater vs vegetarian issue, but as a vegetarian I must say that I had not issues with finding food during my 5 week stay this year in Zim. The main reason that I didn't going hungry was due to my access to USD. I will let the cat out of the hat and admit that Zimbabwe has food. They have land for days and an abundance of good land to grow food. The primary issue is that the cost of food has risen so high that only us Americans can afford it. During my stay, July-August, a trip to the local market for us would usually total up to about $1million Zim Dollars and our market trips were usually 2-3 times per week. The average salary for a teacher in Zimbabwe is about $2.5 Million per month. You do the math and remember that people must also pay rent.

Keya

This is clearly not a meat eater vs vegetarian issue, but as a vegetarian I must say that I had not issues with finding food during my 5 week stay this year in Zim. The main reason that I didn't going hungry was due to my access to USD. I will let the cat out of the hat and admit that Zimbabwe has food. They have land for days and an abundance of good land to grow food. The primary issue is that the cost of food has risen so high that only us Americans can afford it. During my stay, July-August, a trip to the local market for us would usually total up to about $1million Zim Dollars and our market trips were usually 2-3 times per week. The average salary for a teacher in Zimbabwe is about $2.5 Million per month. You do the math and remember that people must also pay rent.

KEITH STEPHENS

23-11-07
I am not a vegetarian but I have not quarrel with those who are. One of our children is so.
Australia is a prosperous country so a choice one way or the other is no difficult.I can understand a number of other countries where it is different.
keithstephens15@hotmail.com
http://www.keithhstephens.freecyberzone.com
http://www.smalltowndynamics.freecyberzone.com

Kent33Mabel

This is understandable that cash can make us disembarrass. But how to act when someone has no money? The one way only is to receive the mortgage loans and collateral loan.

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